jerkin advice?

deros
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jerkin advice? Nov 8, 2011 16:35:55 GMT -8

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Post by deros on Nov 8, 2011 16:35:55 GMT -8

looking to acquire a leather jerkin as a halfway house cold weather item to supplement a future greatcoat purchase. Now as I see it the WW1 item was identical to the ww2 one but for the buttons. To this end, would a 50's Belgian one be a suitable wearer once ww1 style buttons were added to replace the gold ones?
I hasten to add that if that wouldn't be spot on then I will seek another, more accurate alternative.

I have never seen a ww1 jerkin so my supposition that they are identical may be a little naive.

many thanks
Tim

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play

rsm2ndbtnlf Guest	jerkin advice? Nov 15, 2011 5:05:25 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Nov 15, 2011 5:05:25 GMT -8 Hello Tim, In answer to your queary about the Belgian issue item.. NO, it is not suitable, so please do not consider it. I have forwarded you a 'PM' with suitable items for your consideration / purchase! Seph

montythetommy GWHS GWHS Vice-President FOR KING AND COUNTRY! Posts: 128	jerkin advice? Nov 15, 2011 8:05:32 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by montythetommy on Nov 15, 2011 8:05:32 GMT -8 Belgium Jerkins WW2 are lighter/different colour to the WW1 British Jerkin. But a WW2 belgium jerkin is a good find! As they were only suppiled for a short time.
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jerkin advice? Nov 17, 2011 5:55:52 GMT -8

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Post by qms on Nov 17, 2011 5:55:52 GMT -8

Nov 15, 2011 8:05:32 GMT -8 montythetommy said:

Belgium Jerkins WW2 are lighter/different colour to the WW1 British Jerkin.

The business about the jerkin being too light is no problem as the leather will darken considerably the first time yoiu apply dubbin or oil (even petroleum jelly will do at a pinch) - the jerkin will be dark enough to satify critics AND more water resistant
Your big problem will be the lining as military ones seem to be lined in Army blanket or uniform cloth (depending on the item found)

Tom

montythetommy GWHS GWHS Vice-President FOR KING AND COUNTRY! Posts: 128	jerkin advice? Nov 17, 2011 10:56:57 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by montythetommy on Nov 17, 2011 10:56:57 GMT -8 At the end of the day, once you buy the jerkin and the dye, your only gonna be saving yourself a few bucks, MAYBE. It's much simpler and less time consuming to do it the right way, right away.
	"Lord,you know what I must do this day.If I forget thee,do not forget me"-English Common Soldier's Prayer. "I'll tell you what rule we applied,sir.WE APPLIED RULE 3-0-3!WE CAUGHT THEM,&WE SHOT THEM UNDER RULE 3-0-3!"-Breaker Morant 3rd Auckland Regiment, NZEF Don Cossack 12th Regiment ex Body-Guard to the GWHS president 3rdauckland.weebly.com/

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jerkin advice? Nov 18, 2011 6:36:19 GMT -8

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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Nov 18, 2011 6:36:19 GMT -8

Gentlemen.. it's not just a question of the colour. Study the layout of the stitching pattern around the button holes. Also, examples that I have been able to examine, are a slightly different cut than the WW1 / WW2 British originals!

Another point; Belgian examples, depending upon the manufacturer seem to be waisted!!!

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jerkin advice? Dec 30, 2011 7:35:08 GMT -8

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Post by aefstraggler on Dec 30, 2011 7:35:08 GMT -8

In regards to jerkin color - presumably there would be a "range" of colors - different leather sources,
different manufacturers - etc.?

For the LF I've been looking at some of the repros available - waiting on a 3rd vendors offering - but
of the two I've received one has what I'll call a medium brown - the other a dark brown and I'm
wondering if one or both would have fallen into the range of colors that could or would have been
issued.

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John S. Harmon
"A" Coy, 2nd Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers

caturday New Member Posts: 14	jerkin advice? Jan 1, 2012 5:54:08 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by caturday on Jan 1, 2012 5:54:08 GMT -8 For now, what vendor(s) are authorized for the jerkin, if any?
	Taisho Ohara "A" Coy, 2nd Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers. 2nd Sendai Division, Imperial Japanese Army (WW2 reenacted) Various misc. IJA/IJN impressions.

aefstraggler GWHS GWHS Treasurer Posts: 203	jerkin advice? Jan 1, 2012 9:02:58 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by aefstraggler on Jan 1, 2012 9:02:58 GMT -8 Sent you a PM - one the review/evalution of jerkins is complete I'll share the findings with the LF and the other Commonwealth units.
	John S. Harmon "A" Coy, 2nd Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers

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jerkin advice? Jan 1, 2012 13:25:04 GMT -8

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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Jan 1, 2012 13:25:04 GMT -8

John,

The two pics that you have posted of the available range of material shades.. do fit into the actual period item issue.

I would have no problem in recommending either shade, or anything in between, or slightly either side. The main issue with the British Leather Jerkin = Style + Quality + Period Authenticity + Material used.

cco23i Full Member Posts: 161	jerkin advice? Oct 7, 2013 11:37:16 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by cco23i on Oct 7, 2013 11:37:16 GMT -8 Has anyone seen the jerkins by what price glory?
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montythetommy GWHS GWHS Vice-President FOR KING AND COUNTRY! Posts: 128	jerkin advice? Oct 9, 2013 14:49:24 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by montythetommy on Oct 9, 2013 14:49:24 GMT -8 I'm buying one for this November
	"Lord,you know what I must do this day.If I forget thee,do not forget me"-English Common Soldier's Prayer. "I'll tell you what rule we applied,sir.WE APPLIED RULE 3-0-3!WE CAUGHT THEM,&WE SHOT THEM UNDER RULE 3-0-3!"-Breaker Morant 3rd Auckland Regiment, NZEF Don Cossack 12th Regiment ex Body-Guard to the GWHS president 3rdauckland.weebly.com/

montythetommy GWHS GWHS Vice-President FOR KING AND COUNTRY! Posts: 128	jerkin advice? Oct 11, 2013 8:11:22 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by montythetommy on Oct 11, 2013 8:11:22 GMT -8 Actually, WPG is out of stock of them. I have a feeling he's doing a new run.
	"Lord,you know what I must do this day.If I forget thee,do not forget me"-English Common Soldier's Prayer. "I'll tell you what rule we applied,sir.WE APPLIED RULE 3-0-3!WE CAUGHT THEM,&WE SHOT THEM UNDER RULE 3-0-3!"-Breaker Morant 3rd Auckland Regiment, NZEF Don Cossack 12th Regiment ex Body-Guard to the GWHS president 3rdauckland.weebly.com/

cco23i Full Member Posts: 161	jerkin advice? Oct 11, 2013 10:29:28 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by cco23i on Oct 11, 2013 10:29:28 GMT -8 Sure hope so.
	Scott Dunkirk AKA Cyril N Lowry 29362 RMLI "trench raider extraordinaire" When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

montythetommy GWHS GWHS Vice-President FOR KING AND COUNTRY! Posts: 128	jerkin advice? Oct 15, 2013 8:08:22 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by montythetommy on Oct 15, 2013 8:08:22 GMT -8 Going through his website alot of stuff seems to be out of stock (more than usual)....
	"Lord,you know what I must do this day.If I forget thee,do not forget me"-English Common Soldier's Prayer. "I'll tell you what rule we applied,sir.WE APPLIED RULE 3-0-3!WE CAUGHT THEM,&WE SHOT THEM UNDER RULE 3-0-3!"-Breaker Morant 3rd Auckland Regiment, NZEF Don Cossack 12th Regiment ex Body-Guard to the GWHS president 3rdauckland.weebly.com/

Post by deros on Nov 8, 2011 16:35:55 GMT -8

Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Nov 15, 2011 5:05:25 GMT -8

Post by montythetommy on Nov 15, 2011 8:05:32 GMT -8

Post by qms on Nov 17, 2011 5:55:52 GMT -8

Post by montythetommy on Nov 17, 2011 10:56:57 GMT -8

Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Nov 18, 2011 6:36:19 GMT -8

Post by aefstraggler on Dec 30, 2011 7:35:08 GMT -8

Post by caturday on Jan 1, 2012 5:54:08 GMT -8

Post by aefstraggler on Jan 1, 2012 9:02:58 GMT -8

Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Jan 1, 2012 13:25:04 GMT -8

Post by cco23i on Oct 7, 2013 11:37:16 GMT -8

Post by montythetommy on Oct 9, 2013 14:49:24 GMT -8

Post by montythetommy on Oct 11, 2013 8:11:22 GMT -8

Post by cco23i on Oct 11, 2013 10:29:28 GMT -8

Post by montythetommy on Oct 15, 2013 8:08:22 GMT -8