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Post by aefstraggler on Dec 24, 2009 16:16:04 GMT -8
Well - one thing here - another thing there - but none of the four have their P08 web braces
under the SD coat epaulets.
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Post by goldeagle1939 on Dec 24, 2009 19:31:47 GMT -8
Braces are not nder their epauletts, as aefstraggeler has pointed out. I remeber that was one of the first things you told me Seph about wearing the P08 gear.  Now is it me or do those chinstraps also look a little too dark. might just be the light though. |
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Dec 24, 2009 21:42:58 GMT -8
Mike, These are the forerunner of The Royal Green Jackets. They were one of the very first regiments during the Napoleonic Wars to wear Green instead of Red. Called : The Rifle Brigade... their uniform codes/clothing regulations are slightly different than the regular army [illustrated here by the black Sgt's stripes and buttons]. In 1958 the following regiments were amalgamated to form the following battalions of : The Green Jackets.. 1) Oxfordshire Light Infantry : 1st Battalion - The Green Jackets. 2) King's Royal Rifle Corps : 2nd Battalion - The Green Jackets. 3) Rifle Brigade : 3rd Battalion - The Green Jackets. In 1966, the title was change to include the award of 'Royal'.... to become : 1st, 2nd and 3rd Battalions, The Royal Green Jackets. Illustrated below is their WW1 Cap Badge...  |
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Post by goldeagle1939 on Dec 25, 2009 12:48:50 GMT -8
Ah Thanks Seph,
I knew rifle regiments wore Black buttons but I thought that was the extent of it. Thanks for explaining it more in depth.
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Post by aefstraggler on Dec 26, 2009 5:47:23 GMT -8
As always I'll give this a try.....
1) The award / medal / ribbon has to be actually be authorized for wear
by the Crown (or military - whomever has authority - i.e. can't have some bloke
wearing a ribbon on his tunic simply because his terrier won best of show..)
2) Probably something to do with who issues the medal - i.e. Medals / Awards
issued by the King/Queen, authorized foreign medals (i.e. the Croix de Guerre
comes to mind) equals left breast pocket. Authorized awards issued/from or by
certain societies or groups equals right breast pocket. Presumably the latter
would still be associated with some level of bravery or heroic act (saving a life,
etc).
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Post by rmli on Dec 26, 2009 7:34:22 GMT -8
Medals / ribbons are to be arrainged in the order of precedence (sp). You do not mix campaign medals and valour medals into a jumble. They all have a certain hierarchy that must be followed. ie. you would not place your MC in between your Kings South Africa medal and your Long Service medal.
And all issued Commonwealth awards would be directly above and centered over the left breast pocket. I do not know about foriegn awards, so I will not comment.
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Dec 26, 2009 10:35:01 GMT -8
Oh dear!... sorry chaps, your both Waaaaaay of track on this one. Maybe a clue is in order.
Clue: Protocol = Right breast!, Eticate = Not HIS awards!
Seph
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Post by 1886lebel on Dec 26, 2009 11:13:37 GMT -8
Official medals then are only to be worn by those to whom the medal has been conferred.
The major exception to this ruling occurs on commemmorative occasions like Remembrance Day (November 11). On these occasions, descendants wear the medals of deceased recipients but usually acceptably only on the right breast.
Patrick
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Dec 26, 2009 11:24:58 GMT -8
Patrick... excellant!
Can you expand on the 'Decendants' comment?
Seph
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Post by 1886lebel on Dec 26, 2009 12:33:38 GMT -8
It has to be a lineal descendant, in legal usage, refers to a blood relative in the direct line of descent such as a children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc. of that person.
+1 for the Sergent-Chef ;D
Patrick
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Post by rmli on Dec 26, 2009 16:00:07 GMT -8
Head is not looking straight ahead / middle band is below eye level. Rifle is not vertical, but tilted forward at the muzzle. Fingers of left hand are spread.
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Dec 27, 2009 1:02:58 GMT -8
Phil.... you're on the right track, but thinking of : MINOR... instead of : MAJOR faults. I think also, your thinking of US Drill, as the SMLE is actually being held too high. So, with that said, I've given you one of the three Major faults = Weapon being held too high... initiating forward tilt to the weapon.  Seph |
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Post by goldeagle1939 on Dec 27, 2009 18:42:37 GMT -8
according to the sqaud drill illustrated booklet; except for rifle regiments, the bayonet should first be fixed. his insignia to me does not indicate that of a rifle regiment. so there is that one at least. Also his hand looks to be in the wrong position.
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Dec 27, 2009 19:29:48 GMT -8
Mike....
Well spotted, but not having a bayonet fixed is a MINOR fault.
You're on the right track with mention of : Hand Position. But.. which one?
It looks as though 'Q'-6 will take a little time to solve, so let me put it into perspective, and try to get you chaps into the British way of thinking.
1) Major Faults.
This is when things are way out of line, and need to be rectified for balance.
2) Minor Faults.
These are tweeks to the system in order for smoother running.
That should make things a little clearer.
Seph ;D
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Dec 28, 2009 10:25:09 GMT -8
OK.. lets put 'Q'-6 aside for the moment... we'll come back to it at a later date. It's quite clear that you lot require a healthy dose of good old fashoned 'Square Bashing'... or, with the Sgt-Maj, Marching UP-N-DOWN the square!   ;D Lets move on.... This is a Weapons and Equipment question, so lets see how you do with it!  Oh my gawd.. look at the length of that hair!!!  ... however, that's not the fault I'm interested in at the moment. 'Q'-7. There are three faults in view... name them? Seph |
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Now is it me or do those chinstraps also look a little too dark. might just be the light though. 
;D