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Post by oskar2ndchev on Mar 10, 2008 7:07:26 GMT -8
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Post by Marcus on Mar 10, 2008 9:23:19 GMT -8
Did you mean to put up a WPG link up??
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Mar 10, 2008 16:46:00 GMT -8
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Mar 10, 2008 18:23:42 GMT -8
Adam.... get younger hampsters.. ;D
Seph
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Mar 11, 2008 10:12:47 GMT -8
I think the hamsters are doing a work slow-down, holding out for more Purina Hamster Chow... ;D
That said, the M1910 Garrison belt fills in a major gap for a pre-war, early WWI Stateside impression. Originals in almost any condition easily for $300 on ebay and no matter how you try, they still look like 90-year old belts (very expensive 90-year old belts).
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Mar 11, 2008 10:23:09 GMT -8
That style of belt is new to me in regards to US military equipments. What form of uniform dress were they designed for, ie; parade, fatigues, guard duty, etc. Also, how rare in original condition are they?
Seph
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Mar 11, 2008 12:56:04 GMT -8
This was intended for garrison wear with the regular uniform- sort of a "light equipment" uniform. A good example would be for someone going on guard duty. This wasn't intended to be worn with the dress uniform (which was increasingly falling out of use during this period).
Technically, all troops were to be issued a set as part of their basic issue during WWI but it was eventually dropped from the issue list.
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Mar 11, 2008 13:35:28 GMT -8
So, in other words, it was an interim equipment item.
Getting back to part of my original question.. "How rare are these belts in original condition?"
Seph
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Mar 11, 2008 15:18:47 GMT -8
Pretty rare- they fetch a high price on ebay- usually in the $300 area. The rifle and pistol pouches that go with the belt are more scarce and can easily fetch prices in the $150-$300 range. This item wasn't used for that long and it overlapped the use of the M1912 Garrison Belt (which was leather). I believe the reasoning behind the garrison belts was that the Army wanted something that looked military enough but did not require use of the cartridge belt with all the attachments (canteen etc.).
It makes for a pretty neat garrison look.
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Post by CRMichaelis on Mar 11, 2008 19:06:09 GMT -8
Very good to hear WPG is doing these! I notice the proper pucker on the clip pouches... maybe eagle snap .45 pouches in the future??? THAT would be awesome!
Thanks for the post.
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Mar 11, 2008 20:26:20 GMT -8
Chris, do you do a similar Pre-WW.1 to Adam?
Seph
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Post by CRMichaelis on Mar 11, 2008 20:46:47 GMT -8
Seph,
Yes, Adam, myself and several others have done Pre-1917 thru 11/11/18 for several years now. We go to Columbus, NM every March for the last three years (altho' Adam and I missed it last weekend!). We also march in the Huntington Beach 4th of July Parade every year portraying 1916 California National Guard - Co. L, 7th California NG to be precise. It's a fun impression and very different from a WWI Doughboy.
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Post by rsm2ndbtnlf on Mar 11, 2008 22:18:39 GMT -8
How does the equipment and uniform differ, if any, from the WW.1 Doughboy impression?
Seph
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Mar 12, 2008 7:57:50 GMT -8
I'll give you a brief overview soon...stay tuned!
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Post by CRMichaelis on Mar 12, 2008 17:41:54 GMT -8
Mostly it's in the fasteners - eagle snap buttons instead of lift the dots. Also there were subtle differences between the pre-war and wartime pack systems. Obviously no helmets or gasmasks, and canvas leggings instead of puttees.
There's a ton of documentation that Adam will throw your way soon! It's a fun period to recreate and I'm so disappointed I couldn't make Columbus this year. Next time!
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