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Post by sapper44 on Aug 22, 2011 12:33:14 GMT -8
Guys;
Who makes an acceptable repro 1916 helmet? I had one from Precision Ventures LLC off of ebay, but when put next to an original the front bill is to long. I have to have the 68 shell with a 61 liner, so originals are few and far between. Do all repros have this problem? What about IMA, or the ones Shipper has?
Thanks;
Christian
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Post by muddhen on Aug 22, 2011 13:06:03 GMT -8
i've got a 61 liner in my 66 shell,you can usually find a 66. my melon head buddy has a 68 repo and my 66 fits him and looks just fine.
you'll pay almost as much for a hessen or schipper as you will an original
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Post by hwolf on Aug 22, 2011 15:09:12 GMT -8
No one makes a proper reproduction. The repros that are available are Chinese POSs with the wrong liners and shape. I won't even mention the horrific paint jobs (oh wait...I just did). Plus the steel is substandard so you better hope one of the fake mortar rounds we use don't hit your head. I've seen the repros dent just by dropping them.
All the repro ones are from two chinese manufacturers and they both suck. Its like wearing a darth vadar helmet on your head and is just as farb.You are much better off getting the real deal. A good restored original can be found at Alexander and Sons for about $250-$300 depending on size. Remember that to do this impression properly there is no real cheap alternative that is correct.
Best,
Dan
IR23 Authenticity Officer
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Post by jcaputo on Aug 23, 2011 14:35:08 GMT -8
I have a 68 in stock right now should you be interested
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Aug 23, 2011 14:47:43 GMT -8
I highly recommend you jump on it- 68s are as rare as hen's teeth out there. Lucky I take a 66... :-)
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Post by kingkaiser on Aug 24, 2011 21:11:14 GMT -8
I echo the sentiments that repro helmets are more trouble than they are worth. In addition to what has already been stated, there are other problems. First, the sizing is incorrect. Most of the repros are a size 68, but a good repro size 68 liner is actually too small for the helmet. Second, on the M16s, a good repro chinstrap will not fit on the chinstrap lugs. The chinstrap fittings have to be re-worked a bit. Third, not only is the visor too large, it is also turned up. Fourth, the angle of the rear skirt is not quite right. Fifth, many of the repros come with WWII type split pins.
In order to get the helmet half way acceptable, you have to make several modifications (new paint job; new liner; new chinstrap; new split pins). After going to all of the trouble and expense, you're better off going with an original (as much as it pains me to see originals used, abused, and trashed!). I found out the hard way. I bought one of the repros, and "fixed" it up. I repainted the helmet with WWI feldgrau paint from 1944 Militaria. I bought a replacement liner, split pins, and chinstrap from Prairie Flower Leather Company. In the end, the overall cost was pretty close to a restored original. Live and learn!
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Post by muddhen on Aug 25, 2011 4:39:58 GMT -8
i'd forgot about the lugs, the friend i was talking about,we had to file the hole in his chinstrap to get it on the lugs and then the strap would fall off all the time so we had to peen the fasteners close on the lugs, now while it doesn't fall off,he can't remove the strap
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Post by greg24 on Nov 19, 2011 16:16:48 GMT -8
The 68 cm REPROS of M-16 GERMAN steel helmets from SCHIPPERFABRIK are good copies.
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Nov 19, 2011 18:17:24 GMT -8
Right now, none of the reproduction stahlhelms out there are really acceptable. Until something better comes along, originals are the only authorized stahlhelms. One of the big problems is that the liners are never correct and the hardware is wrong.
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Post by hwolf on Nov 19, 2011 22:45:36 GMT -8
The repro helmets from schipper and elsewhere are crap and are NOT allowed in any central powers unit in the GWHS under any circumstances!
Dan
Authenticity Officer IR23
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Post by muddhen on Nov 20, 2011 6:05:04 GMT -8
the ones i've saw have the liners in backwards as well.
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gren
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Post by gren on Apr 19, 2012 8:26:45 GMT -8
We are fortunate to have a professional armourer/blacksmith in our unit. He has been able to trim the brim on the abortion helmets from Deepeeka and reshape the skirt. The look much better, but when placed beside an original size 68 shell it is very apparent they are not correct.
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Apr 19, 2012 11:27:30 GMT -8
Hi Gren-
Welcome aboard. Be sure to add a signature line and introduce yourself. :-)
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Post by pop401k on Sept 9, 2012 22:03:47 GMT -8
Take a look at: ebay.de then search for stahlhelm.
They often have original helmets for a low opening bid. Just be sure to see if they ship weldweite and accept paypal.
An easy way to check size is to look at the lugs: 66 will have no "base ring/washer" 64 will have a thin one, and 62 will have a "base" roughly half as thick as the lug itself.
John Chapman
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Sept 10, 2012 15:21:53 GMT -8
Hi John-
Please take a moment to introduce yourself in the "introductions" section of the furm. Thanks!
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