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Post by coach, eh on Nov 9, 2011 11:14:58 GMT -8
On another note, despite the posts and emails, parking was still fubar.
The area behind the Allied lines contains period camps. We have ours and I've seen other units do so as well.
We're still seeing a nylon ghetto and cars are still parked between the camps and the lines.
No es bueno.
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Post by 1886lebel on Nov 9, 2011 11:29:57 GMT -8
Does it really matter who got into who's trenches in the long run ? Does anyone WIN a prize for doing so ? If we, both Allies and CP, are going to be going to these events to see who bested, destroyed, got into the trenches, etc. at the events it could IMO destroy the GWHS as an organization of like minded folks who enjoy the history of the war and come to the events to 'relive' the war from the different prespectives. I like to tease the CP guys with the above stuff and more but in reality if we make or do not make into the trenches that is fine with me, I do not go the event to WIN but to have fun, meet up with fellow reenactors, friends (on both sides of the wire) and playing with my 'toys'. Yes, I happy and shouted when I hit the CP bunkers, LP/OP's, etc. with the mortar rounds as it gave me pride that I had achieved an objective that I had set for myself on the field as soldier of the period. We will on both sides go back and forth taking one anothers trenches and stuff for the next 30 years and more but will in the end win nothing from it, we just go back to our start points to do it all over again and again and again, why ... because we can and enjoy doing it in the process. It is not like the real war, we can die and get back up to do it over again, they could not.
Patrick
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Post by 1886lebel on Nov 9, 2011 11:33:16 GMT -8
On another note, despite the posts and emails, parking was still fubar. The area behind the Allied lines contains period camps. We have ours and I've seen other units do so as well. We're still seeing a nylon ghetto and cars are still parked between the camps and the lines. No es bueno. Jeff, Are you talking on the road behind the Allied Lines or HOBO Camp ? Patrick
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Post by Platon Karataev on Nov 9, 2011 11:41:39 GMT -8
The area behind the Allied lines contains period camps. We have ours and I've seen other units do so as well. We're still seeing a nylon ghetto and cars are still parked between the camps and the lines. I wasn't aware that it was a strictly period camp in the woods, but I did notice I had the only nylon shanty. I've camped in the same spot for a long while and not heard complaint till now. I apologize. I'll have a period camp for next event as my penance.
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Post by Marcus on Nov 9, 2011 11:55:44 GMT -8
The area behind the Allied lines contains period camps. We have ours and I've seen other units do so as well. There never was a stipulation on the woods behind the Allied lines being period camps only. There probably should be for those who make the effort to do that. Board will have to weigh in on that. As to who gets in who's trenches...no...doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of life. Its simply bragging rights going back to the beginning of the club...nothing new there. Just some friendly competition that I think actually helps the fighting spirit of everyone! You get happy when you nail us with your mortar..we get happy when we get into your trenches or keep Allies out of ours. With the massive effort going into our lines, it's nice to know that the defenses work well. Well fought Russen Soldaten!!
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Nov 9, 2011 13:38:09 GMT -8
We never stipulated that the woods were to be period correct given that people have vehicles parked there and all. The only rule is that it couldn't be visible looking at the woodline from the outside.
Personally, I would prefer to see people in bunkers and dispense with the whole camp thing all together. I'm sure some agreement can be reached there- the whole wood camp thing was something that happened without plan but it's clear that we're going to have to address this in the near future.
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Post by coach, eh on Nov 9, 2011 14:20:39 GMT -8
I know there was never a stipulated rule for the woods, but it does beg the question why have a hobo camp if it's anything goes so long as it's not visible from the trenches.
It's not a major issue in the scope of things.
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Post by Marcus on Nov 9, 2011 14:37:38 GMT -8
I'm definitely with Adam on bunkers vice camps, but ultimately, that is a unit preference thing. The CP is slowly but surely working towards bunkers, but given the scale of our frontline defenses, it will be a couple years before we have usable bunkers. They'll be epic when they're done though!! Once we have them, that will cut down on the number of occupants in the Hobo Camp as well.
As long as no tents or campfires of ANY kind are visible anywhere on the battlefield than it should be fine.
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Post by oskar2ndchev on Nov 9, 2011 16:31:52 GMT -8
I know there was never a stipulated rule for the woods, but it does beg the question why have a hobo camp if it's anything goes so long as it's not visible from the trenches. Well, like I said, things kind of grew without a plan initially and we're in the process of tightening things up. The Hobo Camp started before a lot of Allies started showing up and when they did, they migrated to the woods and pretty much we then had a de facto second hobo camp. I have put out in previous announcements that things were to be hidden from plain view. I'd like to move away from the whole thing in the next year. Up to now, it's been pretty much just me trying to get things organized on the Allied side but I anticipate that this will become more of a collective effort and in fact, it has to be if we're going to get anywhere. I'm sure we can work things out and I don't see it as a deal-breaker. I'm always open to input but I can't do much if people don't tell me.
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Post by coach, eh on Nov 9, 2011 16:40:28 GMT -8
Hey, it's always been a work in progress.
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Post by psychobillyruss on Nov 9, 2011 19:17:37 GMT -8
I gave my life for the kaiser and with my last breaths gave a rousing chorus of "The German Band" This was just moments before the night of the long hockey sticks. Dan Sutton showed me where the Iron Crosses grow...
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Post by hellshoser on Nov 9, 2011 21:33:46 GMT -8
Well, ya know, from my spot on the ice I saw everyone playing hard, 110 per cent at all times, eh? My brother Al used a lot of bad words and I wrote our mom a letter aboot it, so I'm sorry to anyone who heard his profanity. We come from fine Quebec stock and while we are at war, there is no call for using locker room yak stew ya know? I had to take him to the boards for knocking the coach's sacristy over in the locker room. I'm just glad that Division called him back to the GM's office before the Jerries could get a good slapshot on that big nose of his. A big nod to our Russian team mates for rushing the blue line over and over, you made us kilted hosers proud, eh? When Montreal joins the NHL in 1917 I'll carve your names into the big cup. Our French host family were in fine form, not necessarily on the ice, but certainly in the stands. The coach says that it takes the whole team to win a game, and our French cousins cheered our hearts as we took the Jerries to the boards. The other team got kind of lippy at night, yelling things no one on the allied side of the blue line understood, so me and the coach had to cross check a couple of them from center ice. One of them gave me some good chin music though and if wasn't for the coach I'd have been out of the game for sure, eh? Our rather violent territorial neighbors to the south made a fine defense on the left wing over there, and Tim's enforcer kept the Jerries out of the locker room. Sorry for throwing up at the opening ceremony and for our young hoser's participation in the execution of the other teams players, I just wasn't close enough to stop it. He has since been counseled in old time hockey, real iron league rules. Sorry to the big blue coach for fighting with my brother so much, eh?
Pt MacHenniger.
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Post by rsm on Nov 10, 2011 7:20:19 GMT -8
Gentlemen.. and the Hun! Once again, through an extended abscence in Blighty, I have not been able to attend yet another St. Ozena Hostilities! From reading the reports so far thus submitted, it seems that all was as it should be. From all accounts:- 1) A splendid opening barrage! 2) Excellent tactical awarness by the Allies. 3) Superb marksmanship by the French and British 'Trench Mortar' teams. 4) Total emertion into the scenario by all concerned. A point that I feel needs to be commented upon, is the playing of that nerve shattering item.. The Bagpipes! to an Englishman's delicate ears ;-), the noise can only be associated with a pack of very angr cats in a bag being kicked to death! ;-/. However, as a mark of respect to those whom we aspire to emulate and portray.. if played well, and played at the right time ( as Piper Stuckey seems to have done), the overall impression can be quite stunning. Indeed, it can be rather heart rending if one is left to ones thoughts as one listens to the swirl of the pipes tones. Overall, an excellent event, enjoyed by all who took part. I'm certainly looking forward to getting back in the fold. Also, I'm looking forward to seeing any pics of the last hostilities. Once again, well done everyone, and a special 'thank you' to Piper Stuckey for his renditions. I hope that no Allied ears were harmed in the bashing of the cats ;-) Seph Footnote! Can some nice individual from either the CP or AH... post a pic or two their MG positions!?.... just for interet one understands! ;-)
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Post by flagpiper on Nov 10, 2011 8:34:00 GMT -8
Dear Friends,
I echo the sentiment that this was a very fine event by any standards. First, it was great to see folks (from all sides) that I have not seen for months and regret that this happens only twice a year. Beyond the battle itself, this is a prime reason for attending. Each of you made this hobby and the last endeavor worth the price of admission!
The barrage at the opening were the best ever done and although I am still cleaning out my ears, I hope that we can repeat it. Good job Rob and Mike! Next time however, if anyone uncovers my pipes before the barrage begins will be skinned alive. They too still have dirt wedged in small places.
The moments seem to blend together now but some little things stand out and make it all even better: eating the noon meal in the front lines with period rations, watching the mortar and MG crews work, mad dashes here and there, sharing a laugh, a tune, or a story in the trenches, and an overall feeling of comradeship and fun made it all worthwhile.
My hockey stick Canadian mates are always a treat to be with and I am grateful to them for their friendship, the 2nd Lancs are a fine body of troops, good comrades and sports, the French are always a grin and a laugh even though they talk funny, the Marines are great pals (except for wearing red robes), our Russian comrades are a hoot and add color to the battle, and the rest of the allies make it all fun as well. Hats off to our German and Austrian foes (and to be sure, friends) for being tough, accurate, and safe. To all - thank you!
It was an honor and pleasure to play the pipes, especially the evening tunes. Thanks for allowing it to happen and for putting up with me and the bag of screaming cats. For the sunset tribute, I played part of an old lament – Glengarry’s Lament - a Piobaireachd, which is the classical form of piping. As I marched back to our lines, I played Old Lang Sine. My eyes were a bit misty and I actually had a shiver while playing knowing that we were all focused on a moment of remembrance. We should always take time during our events to honor the men we represent ...
Here’s to the health and happiness of you and yours. Have a great winter and we will see you in spring!
My Highest Regards and Compliments! Michael Stuckey 42nd Black Watch, Canada
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Post by fourdeuce on Nov 10, 2011 17:18:52 GMT -8
This Poilu remembers the "Auld Alliance" between the French and Scots and finds the skirl of the pipes to be a very moving and fitting tribute to those we portray! Thanks for playing them (c;
This was my second event and again, I had a great time. Opening barrage was "bon", I learned a lot about hockey from our Canadian comrades, and I wasn't clubbed quite so many time by the Boche! Thanks to all who attended and those who help organize the event and the club as well! Marcel the Frenchy
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